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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://thenakedgreen.com/2005/01/13/sticker-goes-extinct.html#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 20:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"but it is certainly taught as 'law'"

I don't know what school you went to, but evolution was never, ever, taught as a law at any of the schools that I've attended.  There are plenty of laws that were taught to us, such as the Law of Gravity, Laws of Conservation of Energy, etc., but evolution was always taught as a theory.  It's right in the name, the "Theory of Evolution".

Which, frankly, is why I don't understand why anyone felt these stickers were necessary.  If you ask me, it's just more attempts at forcing religious theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but it is certainly taught as &#8216;law&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what school you went to, but evolution was never, ever, taught as a law at any of the schools that I&#8217;ve attended.  There are plenty of laws that were taught to us, such as the Law of Gravity, Laws of Conservation of Energy, etc., but evolution was always taught as a theory.  It&#8217;s right in the name, the &#8220;Theory of Evolution&#8221;.</p>
<p>Which, frankly, is why I don&#8217;t understand why anyone felt these stickers were necessary.  If you ask me, it&#8217;s just more attempts at forcing religious theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Green</title>
		<link>http://thenakedgreen.com/2005/01/13/sticker-goes-extinct.html#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, maybe the sticker should have said, "Evolution is a theory, not a &lt;b&gt;law&lt;/b&gt;..." The word "theory" may be misunderstood, but it's not "law" which is what I think the makers of the sticker were trying to make known. Just pointing out the obvious, really. I agree that this seems unnecessary, but it is certainly taught as "law".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, maybe the sticker should have said, &#8220;Evolution is a theory, not a <b>law</b>&#8230;&#8221; The word &#8220;theory&#8221; may be misunderstood, but it&#8217;s not &#8220;law&#8221; which is what I think the makers of the sticker were trying to make known. Just pointing out the obvious, really. I agree that this seems unnecessary, but it is certainly taught as &#8220;law&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Green</title>
		<link>http://thenakedgreen.com/2005/01/13/sticker-goes-extinct.html#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;bwells&lt;/b&gt;: Thanks for taking the time to express you thoughts! I have a few more questions and comments:

I was aware of the meaning of the word "theory" and don't consider evolution to be one. I believe it takes more faith to believe in evolution than Christianity. I won't go into all my arguments and proofs, though as that was not the point of my post and I'm no expert.

I thank you again for responding with your answer to my question, but I must admit that I'm still floundering. You said, "ALL ideas should be approached in this way - especially those that we are asked to take on faith." which I agree with wholeheartedly. I think children must be taught to think for themselves to help them determine the truth of what they're being told and especially reading. As I mentioned, I think the sticker was a poor attempt in calling evolution into question (though it's a start). Why the attack against it then? It's merely stating something that you agree with. It singles out evolution because there is a controversy over the idea (among secular science as well as religion) and "creationism", as you call it, is not in the book to be questioned.

You also mentioned that you are "absolutely thrilled that this misuse of religious power to thwart the real and true scientific search for truth has been overturned." [Keep in mind that I'm trying hard to stay on topic here]. I still don't get what is "religious" about the sticker. It was suggested by a religious group? As far as I know, in America, any person has the "freedom of speech" to express their opinion and not be persecuted for what their beliefs happen to be when saying it. "Well, this 'opinion' should not be expressed in a scientific textbook", you may say. That's the thing, I don't see any opinion expressed in the sticker (religious or secular). There are lot's of scientific questions left unanswered as far as "origins" are concerned and the sticker is merely cautioning children to take that into consideration. I guess it does express the opinion that kids should think for themselves, but you already agree with that.

&lt;b&gt;Whom it may concern&lt;/b&gt;:
Does this "theory" of evolution need such blind obedience and faith that it can't even be questioned? It's no secret that I'm a Christian, but I don't even accept that type of bigotry from the Christian Church. I would expect more from the "open-minded" secular populace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>bwells</b>: Thanks for taking the time to express you thoughts! I have a few more questions and comments:</p>
<p>I was aware of the meaning of the word &#8220;theory&#8221; and don&#8217;t consider evolution to be one. I believe it takes more faith to believe in evolution than Christianity. I won&#8217;t go into all my arguments and proofs, though as that was not the point of my post and I&#8217;m no expert.</p>
<p>I thank you again for responding with your answer to my question, but I must admit that I&#8217;m still floundering. You said, &#8220;ALL ideas should be approached in this way - especially those that we are asked to take on faith.&#8221; which I agree with wholeheartedly. I think children must be taught to think for themselves to help them determine the truth of what they&#8217;re being told and especially reading. As I mentioned, I think the sticker was a poor attempt in calling evolution into question (though it&#8217;s a start). Why the attack against it then? It&#8217;s merely stating something that you agree with. It singles out evolution because there is a controversy over the idea (among secular science as well as religion) and &#8220;creationism&#8221;, as you call it, is not in the book to be questioned.</p>
<p>You also mentioned that you are &#8220;absolutely thrilled that this misuse of religious power to thwart the real and true scientific search for truth has been overturned.&#8221; [Keep in mind that I&#8217;m trying hard to stay on topic here]. I still don&#8217;t get what is &#8220;religious&#8221; about the sticker. It was suggested by a religious group? As far as I know, in America, any person has the &#8220;freedom of speech&#8221; to express their opinion and not be persecuted for what their beliefs happen to be when saying it. &#8220;Well, this &#8216;opinion&#8217; should not be expressed in a scientific textbook&#8221;, you may say. That&#8217;s the thing, I don&#8217;t see any opinion expressed in the sticker (religious or secular). There are lot&#8217;s of scientific questions left unanswered as far as &#8220;origins&#8221; are concerned and the sticker is merely cautioning children to take that into consideration. I guess it does express the opinion that kids should think for themselves, but you already agree with that.</p>
<p><b>Whom it may concern</b>:<br />
Does this &#8220;theory&#8221; of evolution need such blind obedience and faith that it can&#8217;t even be questioned? It&#8217;s no secret that I&#8217;m a Christian, but I don&#8217;t even accept that type of bigotry from the Christian Church. I would expect more from the &#8220;open-minded&#8221; secular populace.</p>
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		<title>By: bwells</title>
		<link>http://thenakedgreen.com/2005/01/13/sticker-goes-extinct.html#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>bwells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2005 05:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, in the scientific community, the word "theory" is used to describe a careful and rational examination of the facts.  I wish that all discussing this topic would be forced to look up this definition.  Unfortunately, this word has been distorted in the public discourse by those who would like for it to convey ideas that are unreliable.  This is very far from the truth.  The truth is that the theory of evolution has so far been supported by a preponderance of evidence, which is far more than can be said for creationism.  Whereas science uses research and critical investigation to arrive at its theories, faith-based theories use only just that - faith.  You are just to believe and not question.  In this most obvious distinction, science must be given a much higher level of respect.

It is for these reasons that I was absolutely appalled at hearing that these stickers were being placed in science textbooks - there is absolutely no reason to single the theory of evolution out as something that "should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered."  ALL ideas should be approached in this way - especially those that we are asked to take on faith.  

I'm absolutely thrilled that this misuse of religous power to thwart the real and true scientific search for truth has been overturned.  I would hope that it is the intent of most parents for their children to be taught how humans are seeking the truth in a critical manner and not just accepting what their understandably less-informed predecessors may have incorrectly believed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, in the scientific community, the word &#8220;theory&#8221; is used to describe a careful and rational examination of the facts.  I wish that all discussing this topic would be forced to look up this definition.  Unfortunately, this word has been distorted in the public discourse by those who would like for it to convey ideas that are unreliable.  This is very far from the truth.  The truth is that the theory of evolution has so far been supported by a preponderance of evidence, which is far more than can be said for creationism.  Whereas science uses research and critical investigation to arrive at its theories, faith-based theories use only just that - faith.  You are just to believe and not question.  In this most obvious distinction, science must be given a much higher level of respect.</p>
<p>It is for these reasons that I was absolutely appalled at hearing that these stickers were being placed in science textbooks - there is absolutely no reason to single the theory of evolution out as something that &#8220;should be approached with an open mind, studied carefully, and critically considered.&#8221;  ALL ideas should be approached in this way - especially those that we are asked to take on faith.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m absolutely thrilled that this misuse of religous power to thwart the real and true scientific search for truth has been overturned.  I would hope that it is the intent of most parents for their children to be taught how humans are seeking the truth in a critical manner and not just accepting what their understandably less-informed predecessors may have incorrectly believed.</p>
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		<dc:creator>JustIcca's Weblog &#187; Black History Month</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] t religion in school and you can get into some deep doodoo. (Philip makes some good points &lt;a href="http://thenakedgreen.com/archives/2005/01/13/73/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; at his website) I don&#8217;t know they just make me mad sometimes. But that&#8217;s why yo [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] t religion in school and you can get into some deep doodoo. (Philip makes some good points <a href="http://thenakedgreen.com/archives/2005/01/13/73/">here</a> at his website) I don&#8217;t know they just make me mad sometimes. But that&#8217;s why yo [&#8230;]</p>
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